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• Es9068 vs es9038pro forum First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. 109 Bonaventura Drive, San Jose, CA 95134, USA Tel (408) 643-8800 • WWW. BeepPeep_61 I had no idea I was in for a ride on what I would consider one of the best implementations of the ESS ES9038PRO DACs I’ve personally heard. SMSL SU-8 v1 vs SMSL SU-8 v2 . I want to know if I replace them This Forum; This Topic; Status Updates; Products; Topics; Images; Albums; Pages; Ads; General Hi-Fi & Beginners Discussion ; New Generation DAC Chips AKM 4490 vs ESS 9038PRO vs R2R vs FPGAs New Generation DAC Chips AKM 4490 vs ESS 9038PRO vs R2R vs FPGAs. 2. okok Senior Member. Use 2 American SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. The RME ADI-2 runs off the AK4490, and by most accounts it "sounds clean", but I have also heard a no-name chinese DAC running off it, to my ears, through a HE4XX headphone, it somehow sounds "syrupy" to my ears run through a Matrix HPA-3B as compared to my no-name ES9038Pro based DAC. InspectorGadget. r/audiophile is a subreddit for the pursuit of quality audio reproduction of all forms, budgets, and sizes of speakers. However, measurement can ensure that it is Personally I tried getting the modious e with the es chip specifically for the size difference between my asgard 3 and modi 3+ and honestly I can’t Recommend it because the optical port cuts in and out every 10-15 seconds no mater what cables I’m using but my modi 3+ with Ak chip is perfect. Joined Jan 9, 2019 Messages 7,479 Likes 25,238 Location Mid-Atlantic, USA. That es9038pro Vs es9028pro comparison comes from ess and ibasso slides. diyAudio Musical Paradise MP-DX ES9068 ES9039 Streamer Tube DAC Musical Paradise MP-DX ES9068 ES9039 Streamer Tube DAC rather a side-grade. So far, AKM has the best sounding DAC ive heard of the flagships. Regarding Chinese dac boards using ESS PRO chips, most or all of them tie AVCC_L and AVCC_R together causing problems with left/right channel separation and problems powering AVCC with the best sounding power supply SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D What is different 9028 vs 9038? Datasheets looks as the same. Joined May 9, 2019 Messages 103 Likes 112 Location SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. Audio MH-DA004 Dual ES9038PRO DAC - Van Damme's double impact? Home. Dec 12, 2019 (10x10 vs. English. It feeds the DAC with bit perfect Tidal and Qobuz streams and accepts AirPlay clients Hi, maybe some one has an idea using HQPlayer and NAA. Thread starter godmax; Start date Sep 15, 2021; I think it is fairly well-known on other forums (AudiophileStyle, What's Best Forum) that, with respect to sound quality, Roon leaves a lot to be desired relative to lighter-weight players (I I've got DACs galore: preamp, source components, even 2 in my OPPO-205. 0 32bit 768kHz DSD512 MQA The EverSolo DAC-Z6 is a powerful DAC based on a neat technical structure. I am NOT saying I agree with SBAF lol. Member. _ Last edited: 2021-06-15 2:22 pm. It looks like the es9038pro with updated modulators. There are some differences in IV stage and LCD Software. (Leaf Dac Dual 9038Q2M ) This DAC is using a dual 9038Q2M chips and fully balanced and also equipped with DIP8 OP amps and removable BT module. Dedicated Source Components. Dòng này định hướng vào phân khúc khách hàng audiophile chuyên nghiệp và thiết bị phòng thu. Will pass by NFB-28 on to someone on Headfi. wants $1260 for the "standard USB" version of their dual ES9038PRO, so some might argue that's a better deal The top performance D/A chip ES9038PRO from ESS Technology. Nov 26, 2019 #1 So some of you may or may not know, I The SMSL SU-9n is a desktop DAC with an ES9038PRO chipset, DSD512 support, and Bluetooth LDAC wireless capability. I spoke to Garry in great detail about it vs the older Mk3 Deluxe model. 2021-04-14 12:04 pm #34 2021-04-14 12:04 pm #34 ES9038PRO has lower output impedance for lower noise, but therefore requires higher AVCC current. Namely, SU-8s uses ESS ES9068AS DAC chip instead of the ES9038PRO found in SU-9. If Final thoughts. Hair-shirted Capacitor List for ES9038Pro V1. It might require more capacitance in the LPF of the I/V stage to keep it happy Vs the others. Martin . Reactions: Veri. pimy Active Member. 1=2. linuxfan Senior Member. 1; 2; 3; Next. Joined Feb 6, 2018 Messages 9,634 It's a completely different circuit design using two Es9038pro. Portable Source Gear. The ESS Sabre ES9038PRO chip has received a lot of attention and praised as the most important new DAC chip in ages. M. So the main progress would be power consumption. displayname, Dec 2, 2019 #7. But the traditional DAC work with MP by default since ever. It is worth noting though that the only dual chip DAC I own is the Topping DX7. I was going to create a new post if someone could compare the SMSL D1SE vs smsl Su9 because they are both ess9038 pro, only a couple of differences (toroidal transfo, Nichicon, maybe a few more) but not sure if they worth 300 u Sabaj D5 vs Topping DX7 Pro vs SMSL M500 - battle of the ES9038Pro. And the new generation of AKMs are getting ramped up in production soon I hope. . New posts Latest activity. Math is not an optional descriptor. . I call it: Pure Tube i / V ES9068AS ESS Technology Audio D/A Converter ICs Sabre 32 Reference Stereo low power audiophile QUAD DAC w/MQA datasheet, inventory & pricing. Specially designed I/V stage (for such low output impedance). The SMSL SU-9n is a desktop DAC with an ES9038PRO chipset, DSD512 support, and Bluetooth LDAC wireless capability. Forum Donor. speakerdecision. Reactions: raif71, MalinYamato and kiyu. 2 and BG7TBL OCXO > Sonore microRendu v1. Joined Dec 9, 2019 Messages 24,472 Likes 25,154 Location Canada. S. Joined Aug 31, 2019 Messages 260 Likes 138 Location Jubail SA. M500 1. No complaints here. Audio, Audio, Audio! DACs, Streamers, Servers I think it would also be better to choose a 9028pro board, as it is less likely to have flaws and both should measure the same anyway for a stereo build of this quality. You already answered your own question, it will all depend on the implementation and there’s no way to predict how something will preform without knowing the entire rest of the design, at least from a sound quality perspective imo AKM AK4499EQ: I decided to try the Fiio M15, and went with it vs the SP2000 because it was a third of the price for the exact same AKM4499EQ chips. Jul 7, 2023 Detailed comparison of the Yamaha A-S3200 vs Parasound Halo HINT 6 amplifiers to find out their strengths and weaknesses, and decide which one to choose. But for standard formats, it doesn't need a heatsink. 16x16mm), but who knows whether the design is horribly inefficient. May 18, 2021 #2 SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. SU-9n is also equipped with ES9038Pro chip but combined with high-performance EVERSOLO DAC-Z6 DAC 2x ES9068 XMOS XU316 Bluetooth 5. ES9068AS zu finden. 2021-06-15 2:30 pm #15 2021-06-15 2: Forum Donor. 99 chip. Joined Feb 27, 2018 Messages 506 Likes 407 Location USA. 1 kHz. May 17, 2022 #1 ES9038Pro and es9039pro have the same performance. A little bird share the data sheet for ESS ES9038Pro Forums. Joined Jan 6, 2017 Messages 4,129 Likes 5,240. Lets get to the nitty-gritty. 00. L. So it's maybe not the AKM chips, and A22 uses twice as many. Made in Taiwan and used in SHDP. You must have a verified phone number and physical address in order to post in the Audiogon Forums. Of course, there are variables - equipment matching, impedance etc. Thread starter Green77; Start date 2018-01-08 7:54 pm; Jump to Latest G. Without scoping the outputs or measuring the DAC there's no telling if The highest performance DAC chips on the market currently are the ES9038Pro and the Ak4499eq. USB uses XMOS's xCORE-200 series 16 core XU216 processor, supports native DSD and 32 bit PCM. Nemo Active Member. It uses the ESS ES9038PRO DAC. Up until recently most people who tried it found it sounded the best of all USB boards they tried. Jun 16, 2020 ES9038PRO are power hungry chips and cooling them down will improve the performance over time. (Maryland) Mar 7, 2023 #192 Guilherme_BR said: It would be great to see a DAC with D1se2 high end analog section and ROHM Chip. Prior to the start of Headfonics Functions and features: 1. ESS’s ES9038Pro chip (NEO X) is already very powerful, with a signal-to-noise ratio of up to 140dB, total harmonic distortion plus noise -122dB, and it is a 32-bit, 8-channel DAC. King of Mods. Joined Nov 12, 2020 Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Sponsor Announcements and Deals. After much research I ended-up in this thread. Members. This is my second and a shootout between two different implementations of the AK4499 chip, one by Topping and one by Gustard. The Z8 has the single ES9038Pro, There is a DAC-Z6 by Eversolo, it is also cheaper and features the ES9068 DAC chip, but it is not the Pro version in the Z8. H. and high-performance power supply chip ES9311, the noise of ES9311 is lower than 1uVrms, to pushed ES9038PRO to the limit. The Samsung Galaxy Fold community! News, Reviews, Tips, Discussions and more about the Galaxy Fold line, but also other foldables and related stuff. The OPA1622 is a slow device compared to the OPA1612/OPA1656. Official manufacturer of the best amplifiers in the galaxy ES9038Pro Chip; Looks like a decent alternative to the DX7S. Joined Aug 26, 2020 Forum Donor. Donations. The ES9068AS is a premium-grade DAC chip, and we’ve had the opportunity to listen to many devices equipped with this DAC chip. Download. EBay es9038q2m vs es9038pro. ESSTECH. I gather you thought you had ES9038PRO? Last edited: 2021-12-02 6:10 pm. The brands I have looked at are Sabaj d5($469) and a Topping D90($699). Audio, Audio, Audio! DACs, Streamers, Servers, Players, Audio Interface SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. We are glad to announce to you that we have succeeded in designing the output for ES9038PRO, undergoing over 15 different designs, we chose the best design to share for you. It was kindly sent to me by one of their distributors, Shenzhenaudio. The same chipset that makes RME usb devices work so great, so valuable information, is it not? I could not give you that info, only MC, cause he knows. Don't know if there might be some modulator difference between ES9018 and ES9038Q2M. Green77. Also the OPA1612 does have the highest quiescent over the other opamps we're talking about it will be the hottest. Recognizing and Realizing the Artistic Vision in the Studio and at Home The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC was designed for premium home theater equipment including Blu-ray players, preamplifiers, all-in-one After many years of using ES chips, we have experienced with DAC, ES9018S, ES9038PRO. 71 ₽ -already at a discount of -4% If you can find the same dacs on an English language aliexpress link then probably better, at least for this forum. SABRE PRO được nâng cấp lên chuẩn high-end audio bằng việc I have done enough reading that it appears the two latest chips are the Sabre or ESS ES9038PRO and the AK4499. ES9038Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9028Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9038Pro DAC (3): Analyzing the result To develop RPi DAC HATs, I tried whole ESS mobile DAC family. Joined 2021. The other DAC just released but not yet measured is the SMSL M500 which also uses the ES9038Pro. Now I got X9S and an external dual ES9038Pro DAC. amirm Founder/Admin. I thought Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Reactions: LBDoan and VeerK. Now I do. Thread starter godmax; Start date Sep 15, 2021; Tags I have A/B one cable to the U18 vs one cable to u18 and another to X26pro. diyinhk. Current visitors. Also, for Mac OS does the default OSX driver function well with Logic and the XMOS XU216 USB chipset? Marcus is the Founder & Owner of headfonics. Aug 8, 2022 #1 SMSL M500 MKIII Hi Res Audio DAC & Headphone Amplifier ES9038PRO OPA1612A MQA-CD DSD512 XU316 Bluetooth With Remote Control The A couple of points about DACs Within the mass production process of a batch lot of DACs, there can/will be slight test measurements differences between similar units. They've improved things like subtle power supply noise and improved resolution of the IVC. You were wrong in thinking it is the same usb chipset. ESS has low power consumption characteristics, while providing 128dBA dynamic RME User Forum — ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRORe: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO. may i ask the good folks here if the 9068 PRO version is expected from ESS? " ich versuche die Unterschiede und Konsequenzen der ES9038Pro vs. 1 redbook vs higher res or oversampled source files. XO said: Does this really have ELNA caps as said in this review? "C. Audio circuit of the M7 is based around ESS Sabre ES9038PRO DAC. Audio, Audio, Audio! DACs, Streamers, Servers, Players, Audio Interface ES9068 PRO expected? When? Thread starter PortableMusic; Start date Dec 8, 2020; PortableMusic Active Member. I plan on getting the mkIII when it comes out, the mkIII can use akm4490,akm4497, or ess9038pro, gary(the designer) prefers the ess9038pro and says it sounds the best, i'm thinking that if i love the sound of the 4490 then i should love the 4497. No IMD test vs level, to check for ESS "Hump" ? Not even a basic one (-25, -40, -60) ? OP . This DAC from TaoBao seems to be an excellent cost-benefit using the ES9038PRO. Joined Oct 25, 2019 Messages 11,846 Likes 16,192. Thread starter pimy; Start date Jun 27, 2021; P. I've seen the Z video but I haven't seen anyone on this forum mention the same problem. As a priority, I would like to focus on the cheaper first option Rod Rain Audio Later generation ES9038PRO DACs like the Topping D90SE and the Sabaj A20d 2022 (currently reviewing) are performing better than Oppo UDP-205. Gustard X26 Pro Dual ES9038PRO DAC Home. ES9038PRO best I/V op amp. High precision, low jitter dual clock oscillators synchronous processing. Thread starter TC!! Start date Oct 20, 2019; Prev. Oppo Sonica DAC Given that more and more music comes from digital sources, the DAC is one of the most important components in the playback chain. There is no preference to have, unless its about looks First of all, great reviews in this Forum. For a simple test, even standard 3M very thin double-sided tape should do, but on a long run some double-sided thermal adhesive would be better. Cheers for sharing results keep up the good work all forum's great! Owner - Audiophile Store Australia & A. MalinYamato Forum Donor. Sending DSD directly to the DAC has better Transients, and deeper News. Dec 12, 2019 #22 amirm said: The ESS DAC chip doesn't get hot at all playing 16 bit/44. Veri Master Contributor. Aug 25, 2018 #2 Forum Donor. I can’t find any combination that sounds better then bypassing DSD directly to the DAC ( es9038Pro ). However, the ES9038 IC likely to overheat if you're playing back 176-384khz audio files. It offers such great performance and features so this is easy to understand. In experiments contrasting and comparing the OPPO's digital to analog conversion with preamp, X-FI HD, Sony PCM-7010, Airport You can select 9038Pro in the configurator This might be the wrong kind of forum to pursue these kind of "low fidelity" distortion monsters though. you can actually confirm that if you hook up an Arduino to it and read a specific register), a rather sloppy design (I can't really imagine someone taking his time, going through several iterations and revisions so as to properly design such a DAC), low-end Forums. The successor will be $720 vs $575, both seem to use toroidal transformers, Nichicon caps and same OpAmps, except the successor uses a UK toroidal transformer and more OpAmp chips, the remote seems to have more buttons and MQA support beyond USB. yes, a RPi 4 -- it runs Volumio3 and my own hacked media controller in python3. Aug 21, 2019 #11 HI Amir Thanks for this review. 2n is equall good for es9038pro ? E. O. And i'll explain my rationale here for this: - if you dont have an MP dac, then yes. I have done enough reading that it appears the two latest chips are the Sabre or ESS ES9038PRO and the AK4499. ES9038PRO ESS Technology Audio D/A Converter ICs Sabre Pro Reference 8 channel DAC datasheet, inventory, & pricing. Joined May 30, 2020 Messages 1,927 Likes 2,091 Location France. Staff Member. Maybe choosing brighter sounding analog components SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO DAC CPLD Altera XMOS 32bit 768kHz DSD512 ;) Reviews. Unless local, Gustard is not so easy to follow. headwhacker Active Member. By lkypeter December 13, 2016 in General Hi-Fi & Beginners Discussion I know that the chip does not matter that much in building the DAC. Maybe it gets hot at much higher data rate. The ES9068 can process the MQA through the native hardware acceleration method. " After having read all these posts re V2 and thermal design deficiencies, I must be listening to a completely different device:). Thread starter pimy; Start date May 18, 2021; Forum Donor. Joined Feb 2, 2019 Messages 398 Likes 480. The exaSound uses a higher rated DAC: ES9038PRO than the more expensive Merging + NADAC: ES9008S. Thread starter Martin; Start date Feb 12, 2020; Prev. does’ anyone have good experience up sampling DSD64 (SACD) to DSD512. For the DACs that measure better, these are sorted out and put aside and ranked as premium pcs; The DACs that measure better are sold @ higher prices as premium pcs; A typical yield of the Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. not a real BIG difference at all. If you want to have a conversation about things that don't exist, I suggest another forum. MQA, XLR Balanced out to my 887 all working very well. Joined Dec 5, 2019 Messages 3,843 Likes 3,820. Please confirm your currency selection: Likely more practical to get better sound quality out of that verses ES9038PRO due to complications with powering AVCC in the latter chip. Contact Mouser (USA) (800) 346-6873 | Feedback. Nov 21, 2020 #26 Both the M400 and A22 are available at Shenzen. 25 | NEW ES9038 ES9038PRO HIFI AUDIO Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Audio, Audio, Audio! DACs, Streamers, Servers, Players, Audio Interface. The current implementations of these chips are achieving a Reviews. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. We cannot reasonably expect a 9038pro to be better than Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. It sets a new benchmark for audio excellence with the industry’s highest dynamic range (DNR), up to 140dB, in a 32-bit, 8-channel DAC. Good job! I am researching to buy a HI-FI DAC with a reasonable price. ess9038pro I have the musical paradise mp-d2 mkI with akm4490 and love the sound, here's my question. I had jumped around Schiit DAC’s and Headphone amps for 2 years before finally listening with my ears and only looking at and referencing specs as a rudimentary baseline for comparison. But finally opted for the X26Pro since I have a fable for unnecessary over-engineering within reasonable price difference and must say I don't regret my decision. I never understood why they chose SMSL as their brand since it is often used when text messaging as an abbreviation for Splitting My Sides Laughing. The SMSL SU-9 PRO ES9039PRO DAC is now available! Priced under $500, SMSL brought another decent DAC—the SU-9 PRO. Audio, Audio, Audio! Amplifiers, Phono preamp, and Analog Audio Review . ES9039MPRO & ES9039PRO 32-bit High-Performance 8 Channel DAC Product Datasheet ESS TECHNOLOGY, INC. Well, ordered a Soncoz SGD1 DAC and a Gishelli Erish AMP. Please return to Audiogon. An old Hoffman forum Friend from years back! Good of you to chime in here Archimago! I’m reading your SMSL M500 Teardown & ESS ES9038Pro DAC Thermal Analysis That's a myth. Besides that, the noise floor of 20k+ aliasing is higher on slow filters so ideally you should be hearing a sound that is less smooth, but it's not unheard of for people to interpret it as "more clear", but we're still talking -100dB so it's not too surprising you can't 春风不度玉门关，又见才子伴乐谈。 时值农历年底了，很想问一声，你们忙不忙？反正我最近是累得够呛，算是年前最后的冲刺吧。经常晚上在办公室加班，也常常没有时间回到家里书房拿出专门的时间聆听音乐，于是，我 I used to scoff at people saying there are differences. 2 DAC: 7x 47µF 25V (Fine Gold and Oscon) – Digital Side; 10x 47µF 25V (SILMIC-II) – Analog Side; 3x 100µF 25V (Fine Gold) 1x 3300µF 50V (KMQ) 3x 6800µF 35V (LA Nover RH43) 2x Later generation ES9038PRO DACs like the Topping D90SE and the Sabaj A20d 2022 (currently reviewing) are performing better than Oppo UDP-205. 2016-10-30 7:49 am Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. Sep 15, 2020 #24 JustJones said: AK4499 vs ES9038Pro / Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22. If I'm being honest with you, the reason I'm looking at the ES9038Pro is simply that it's new and has a lot of "gee wiz" reviews raving about sound quality. As for analog stage should be same if not greater gains there than with digital stage. DVD/UHD Blu-ray & Misc Hardware. Page: 57 Pages. Jan 25, 2020 #121 Also, from Benchmark's experience, we get better THD performance from the ES9028PRO than from the ES9038PRO. If I'm going to be spending $$$$ I figured I might as well get the latest The reason is very simple. Thread starter PitBul34; Start date Mar 22, 2017; Prev. DIYaudio forums might have done something like this. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. Coming here and asking for XMOS compatibility of Mac OS is a first, and the wrong forum. 3E Audio 260-2-29A : TPA3255 / HA3588 CoilCraft / PFFB Fully differential. According to ess because of the digital stage upgrades in the es9038 pro single chip performance is about the same as 4 es9028pro chips. SMSL SU-8S Balanced DAC ES9068AS. Manufacturer: ESS Technology,Inc. It was design by Weiliang. Joined Feb 2, 2019 Messages 398 Likes 479. Thread starter diyinhk; Start date 2016-10-30 7:49 am; Status Not open for further replies. This is how the MP3 vs FLAC and the years go by and many keep turning to overcoming issues. Thread starter shenzhenaudio; Start date Oct 14, 2021; I have done many blind and AB tests with 44. 00008%) total harmonic distortion plus noise Equipment Forums. In fact, the gross profit rate of the 2 ES9038PRO DACs has dropped. Benchmark is L. ES9038Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9028Q2M DAC HAT vs ES9038Pro DAC (4): Conclusions 1. Equipment Forums. Apr 19, 2022 #143 Mr. 2021-12-02 6:05 pm #9 The ES9038PRO is designed with multichannel capability and excels in stationary setups requiring high-performance systems, such as studios or the best home theaters. SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. 2018-01-08 7:54 pm #1 2018-01-08 7:54 pm Well, the ES9039PRO is coming ;-). Preference is SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning Equipment Forums. OP . com which started in 2011, and a former contributing music journalist to European regional printed newspapers in the late 1980's and 1990's. The tradeoff on the DX5 is that the A20d has the better DAC (ES9038Pro vs ES9068), and the DX5 has a stronger amp. Somehow the MP D2 mk3 didnt quite take off here The Topping D90SE is a flagship digital-to-analog converter (DAC) using an ESS SABRE ES9038 PRO DAC chip. Joined Oct 31, 2020 Messages 377 Likes 165. Discussion A properly implemented ES9038Q2M will sound better than a poorly implemented ES9038Pro 100% of the time. Cisco150 Active Member. SMSL M500 Teardown & ESS ES9038Pro DAC Thermal Analysis. com and complete this step. Thread starter econsumer666; Start date Dec 24, 2012; Now when comparing CS4398 VS ES9018k2m (D30 vs M8) the difference in detail is not as great as vs the DX7. This is a review and detailed measurements of the brand new SMSL SU-9 Balanced USB DAC. (Maryland) Feb 25, 2021 #42 I2SoverUSB is the best sounding of that type that I know of: I2SoverUSB - I2S over USB AudioIt used NDK SDA clocks which are also very good, but not quite as good as AS318 B in a direct comparison. Rakoit specializes in utilizing the potential of the ES9038Q2M to meet high sound quality with low power consumption in audio products available in the contemporary world. I use them to watch movies in 5. Joined 2016. Joined 2007. All the experience of adapting it into a classic Hi Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. I had the opportunity to listen to the D90SE as part of a tour organized The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC - Bringing Music to Life The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC is the flagship of the ESS PRO series. 3. The latest news about ESS and our award winning products. Quick shoutout to David from eversolo/Zidoo for setting me up a review unit to check out. SMSL has poor after sales support as they have shown in multiple recent threads on this forum. Joined Mar 31, 2020 Messages 2,302 Likes 3,212 Location Blue Oasis in a Red desert. Joined Oct 11, 2019 Messages You haven't read anything other than the emotional state of the writer. Discussion in 'other' started by Robin Jackson, Mar 23, 2024. At least we know Hyperstream modulators are very unusual based on their noise vs DC offset plots. The new Oppo Sonica DAC improves upon the highly regarded audio performance of the Oppo HA-1 and BDP-95/105 players and presents an upgraded DAC chipset, the flagship ESS ES9038PRO SABRE DAC. What's new. It must always be by default, regardless of the chip, minimum phase. OPA1612*8 The Loxjie D40 is equipped with ESS Technology’s DAC chip named ES9068. Slow filters usually have a high frequency drop that is easily audible, but it is possible for the designers to fix this. Forums. Robin Jackson New Member. This is the first one from Aliexpress/TaoBao that I see with much detail about the components used and In the L7 review, forum member nameless999 wrote some detail about the practical differences between 9038 and 9039. Joined 2020. It has the highest performance commercial DAC chip in the form of the new ES9039PRO and is one of the most affordable DACs capable of fully unfolding and natively decoding MQA files. Regarding a three opamp output stage it is Forum Donor. 1 Topping did nothing special, all they did was combine the analog outputs of the several low powered chip opamp I/Vs. 2 (21). Joined Jan 1, 2019 Messages 5,477 Likes 12,083 Location São Paulo, Brazil. Zusammen, ich versuche die Unterschiede und Konsequenzen der ES9038Pro vs. The SU-9 will be released September 30th and will cost US $439. It is priced at $399. Thread starter pimy; Start date Jun 14, 2021; P. Joined Feb 28, 2018 Messages 1,997 Likes 2,618 Location Iasi, RO. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by russk, Dec 2, 2019. And there are more highs. I should add that going in, I wanted not to hear a difference to validate my skepticism It is not something one can easily pick up on. Quoting nameless999, using a machine translation to English: C18. (800) 346-6873. The 3rd generation XMOS XU316 with higher performance and faster speed. On ES9018, ES9028, and ES9038Pro, IV they're using 4 resistors values 680, 560, and 120 Ohm respectively. K. L. The D30 we reviewed in Forums. The SU-9 has a simpler Equipment Forums. Nov 7, 2021 #2 It is the same DAC in Luxman D-10x 16,000 $ As for THD+N, although it is not as good as ES9038PRO, but this performance is far more than enough, we should focus on the music itself, not just measurement. IMO the answer is that a DAC is not only a DAC, but also an amplifier, and that amplifier has an analog output Other manufacturer's ESS ES9038Pro implementations are priced far higher than the Oppo Sonica DAC. But, the DC500 goes lower and the bass is more taught. Jump to Latest D. edit: For sale now here. The eversolo DAC-Z8 is a Desktop DAC/amp that comes in at $699. Apr 1, 2022 #95 MalinYamato said: SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. Truthslayer Full Audioholic. 1; 2; 3; First Prev 3 of 3 Go to page. ultra-low phase noise true SYNC mode clock; and C. which is based on a es9038pro chip. 1 of 3 Go to page. Forum SMSL SU-9 Balanced DAC Review. And of these, only the OPPO's DACs can natively accomodate my 24/192 digital music downloads. Joined Feb 13, 2018 Messages 583 Likes 744. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates. On paper the SGD1 is serious bang for the buck, and the Erish if its as good as its simpler brother will be a great AMP again for the price. evan123 Member. 3 > IsoRegen > Denafrips Iris > i2s > Denafrips Pontus II > Schiit Freya+ w/ Linlai E-6SN7's > Nord One Up NCore 500 monoblocks REV D w/SI990Enh op amps > Martin Logan Impression 11A w/ dual Rythmik E15HP2 subs. RME builds incredible audio technology. SABRE Two-Channel DACs are designed specifically for low-power applications Forum Home Amplifiers Solid State Pass Labs Tubes / Valves Chip Amps Class D Power Supplies Headphone Systems. Jun 27, 2021 #1 The SU-9n takes up the excellent base of the sister SU-9 while promising further improved performance and useful versatile functions. Go. Studio environments can also leverage the ES9038PRO SABRE DAC’s industry-leading performance for professional audio workstations and other equipment. Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Joined Jun 17, 2020 Messages 105 Likes 109. Z. Thread Status: MP-D2 MK3 DELUXE ES9038PRO AK4497 AK4490 TUBE DAC . Maybe, if there are internal oversampling, linear phase. Joined • audio·phile: a person with love for, affinity towards or obsession with high-quality playback of sound and music. Joined Sep 6, 2022 Messages 20 Likes 11. Change Location. Since a good AVCC With these low cost chinese DACs you pretty much get what you pay for: an original ES9038Pro chip (most likely. 08 firmware and absolutely zero issues, pops, clicks, or anything I can mention, while listening to 24/352. I can now do a A/B comparison of both DAC's (ESS9038PRO vs AK4499eq) using the same USB QOBOS source or CD's. Thread starter pimy; Start date May 18, 2021; Obviously, most people even on this forum wouldn't do that, even though from a dollar-per-performance metric, that would be the only logical thing to do. #Aliexpress AU $315. The display is a 'old hat' in this day and age of TFT displays, thought about a colour upgrade, did a little research, good - there are projects, Some extensive info on CS43131 in its datasheet! Hard to understand for me though. Reactions: Icipher84. The D90SE retails for $899. Yes, you can make yourself a DAC with pure tube output. My first was a shootout between DAC chips, AK4499 vs ES9038Pro, both in Gustard units. News Hi, I am considering building a DAC and think these from DIYINHK based on ES9028PRO or ES9038PRO look interesting: ES9028PRO ES9018 32bit Audio DAC PCB - DIYINHK ES9038PRO XMOS DSD DXD 768kHz USB DAC with Bit-perfect volume control and SPDIF input - DIYINHK Did anyone ever build and/or ESS Sabre flagship ES9038Pro 32 bits D\A converter chip. Use two ESS company ES9068AS digital to analog conversion chips. The DAC chips in question both well and truly exceed the capabilities of our hearing, and differences between them are even pretty damn hard to measure despite our AK4499 vs ES9038Pro / Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22. Leave the DAC on linear phase and enjoy the music. in line with advice that is regularly given in this forum). Joined Feb Put the best chip in a horseshit DAC circuit and it might as well be a $2. Disclaimer: The SMSL SU-9n sent to us for this review is a. Depending on how the chip is used it can achieve up to 140dB dynamic range, -122 dB (0. Forum; Kaufberatung; Ratgeber; Um eine Antwort zu erstellen, musst Du im HiFi-Forum registriert sein. Apr 1, 2022 #114 How the stack looks is everything! Top shelf reserved for a MiniDSP Flex Digital. Thread starter godmax; SMSL VMV D1se and the Gustard X26 Pro, that are all based on the ES9038PRO chip(s). CFO (Chief Fun Officer) Joined Feb 13, 2016 Messages 46,265 Likes Anywho, my questions is if I would see much of a difference in sound quality between the ADI-8 and another converter with dual ES9038PRO chipset. AK4499 vs ES9038Pro / Gustard DAC-X26 vs Gustard DAC-A22 I've wondered how these two flagship DAC chips compare but it's difficult to find them implemented in similar hardware. markkpa. russk likes this. In wieweit machen sich 8Channel und 2Channel bemerkbar. Like Dòng Pro có các seri sau: ES9038PRO, ES9028PRO, ES9026PRO. Al Part #: ES9028PRO. Ayre claimed that "The ES9038PRO in the QX-5, combined with Ayre’s custom minimum-phase digital filter, implemented in a low noise FPGA, renders an astonishing level of detail and purity, regardless of format. I have the musical paradise mp-d2 mkI with akm4490 and love the sound, here's my question. Joined May 31, 2019 Messages 3,108 Likes 5,599 Location Liège, Belgium. ES9018, ES9028, and ES9038 could using same PCB. Joined Aug 3, 2018 Messages 584 Likes 499. 8 MQA, SMSL D1SE Balanced ES9038PRO. New posts Search forums. T. Dac Chips- ES9038Q2M or AK4490 delta sigma (thoughts-opinions) Hide sidebar Show sidebar Thread starter Truthslayer; Start date Nov 26, 2019; 1; 2; 3; Next. Love the effect of finger on the DAC. Digital To Analog (DAC) Reviews and Discussion . Jun 14, 2021 #1 I own a Bluesound Node 2i which greatly improved sound after I added the Cat 6 cable. Joined Aug 31, 2018 Messages 315 Likes 698. Some, but often very slight. Description: 32-Bit HyperStream짰 II 8-Channel Audio DAC. COM 1 Bob Mac Mini M1 12 volt dc > Roon > HQ Player to DSD 256 > Fibre to EtherRegen w/LPS1. zzz2496 Member. One can infer that Meizu’s CS43131, made in Korea, is CS43131 42 ball WLCSP package (balls underneath it and its vertical sides are longer than the horizontal side – a rectangle) rather than pads attached to pins in the 40 pin QFN –CWZR ver. Hi amigos, I share with a quick review of an unknown new DAC. Review Index. It's the language of reality. com ES9038 ES9038PRO DAC 32BIT DSD256 DAC Dual R -Core Power Transformer, XMOS XU208 Amanero asynchronous USB Entrance, Remote control for 26 272. 1 setup and listen to music with an AV receiver. It would become an ultimate DAC if: A. ES9038PRO VS AK4497 FIR Filter. Joined 2012. 99. Illegitimi non carborundum. Home Theater Hardware Hangout. I don't know what chipset the ADI-8 uses. I would like the single chip version tested. 5 years later with listening to both DAC chips on the over 15-20 different DACS that I either owned or heardI can honestly say that to my ears, ESS chips are indeed typically brighter. Joined Feb 6, 2018 Forum Donor. equipped with really nice power supply; B. File Size: 1MbKbytes. ES9018K2M is the first, then ES9028Q2M, then the ES9038Q2M. Digital To Analog (DAC) Reviews and Discussion Little Dot DAC VII - ES9038PRO. The flagship model of the ESS line, power hungry 8-channel beast and DAC that we started to really like last year, when we implemented it into our top-of-the-line CD Player CD3. I wanted to start a thread discussing the merits of each DAC in terms of functionality, use and cost. Markw4. Next Last. Few weeks ago I was looking for a replacement of my Marantz DV9500, died due to a fail in the spinner mechanic for the second time (already replaced one time in the past by an official Marantz support center). Joined Apr 18, 2019 Messages 1,760 Likes 2,260. The K9 Pro ESS uses two ES9038PRO chips, and the purchase cost of the ES9038PRO and AK4499 are basically the same, so the cost of the K9 Pro ESS increases a lot. They've improved things like subtle power supply noise and improved Forums. ES9038Pro is no doubt the monster flag ship. That doesn’t affect its great format support that includes PCM all the way up to 768 kHz, DSD up to 512, and even a controversial MQA compression unfolding is fully hardware supported (for the ones that are not familiar with it, MQA is basically a lossy compression aimed at reducing the Thanks for the advice, you have some good points there! I've been using the E17/E09 combo for almost 5 years and my brain is definitely "burned in" to the sound they produce with the Adams - for the last 24 hours, I've been going back and forth between the dx3pro and the older setup - and keep finding the original setup sounding better (although the dx3pro ESS 9038 PRO VS ESS 9038Q2M DAC Chip audible difference . Home Forums > Discussions > Audio Hardware > What’s new in the Tube DAC world. I do not own a separate DAC but am told it would be the next step improvement. Timbo2 Addicted to Fun and Learning. As far as filters are concerned, ringing is more of a theoretical nuisance than an auditory one. The Eversolo DAC-Z8 has optical, coaxial and USB B Forum Donor. SMSL SU-9n ES9038PRO DAC is up NOW Home. Both DAC's are good - really good. Later generation ES9038PRO DACs like the Topping D90SE and the Sabaj A20d 2022 I like putting together these comparisons to provide a side-by-side view of two similar products. Thread starter pimy; Start date May 18, 2021; VMV D1SE or the SU-9 vs DO200 hooking it up with an SP200 and Ananda . Home Forums > Products > other > Neo Alpha vs X9S + ES9038PRO Performance. News Tests Bestenlisten Deals Produkte Marken Jobs » BLACK FRIDAY. A Audio. Chinese ES9038pro DAC's with multiple inputs. Re: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO. I suspect a lot of us are used to hearing rolled off highs - so when natural highs return, it's an adjustment, but a quick one for me. Joined Mar 18 . XMOS XU-208, true 32bit audio processing, support DoP and Native DSD, and reaches 32bit/768kHz and DSD512. IMO the answer is that a DAC is not only a DAC, but also an amplifier, and that amplifier has an analog output No need to search anymore. what are your thoughts 4497 or 9038pro? akm4497 vs. Oct 16, 2022 #34 smsl su9 already got this chip Forum Donor. The ES9038PRO was designed for premium home The ES9038PRO SABRE DAC delivers on that promise enabling the highest quality sound possible, regardless of file format or device. I'm a newbie here, but I found this forum very valuable and interesting, so I want just share my limited and humble experience on this topic. Aug 25, 2018 #20 Zidoo forum. Re: ADI-8 DS (MK I) vs Dual ES9038PRO That is an excellent dac, that not only measures well but has also received high subjective praise from SBAF (another forum), that uses the Schiit Yggy as the standard best dac. It embeds high-end components with notably two ESS Forums. It would be interesting to compare measurements of the AK4499 and ES9038Pro in the same circuit. Español $ USD United States. Joined Jan 9, 2019 Messages 7,513 Likes 25,396 Location Mid-Atlantic, USA. Treble I’m not sure what’s making it so different in here compared to the rest of the SMSL flock. kjmrx huimf sytokm cpydmxrwz yvugke fiwusvc ibogit gzead opoyv uijmdk